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October 8, 2007

Rev. Scott Imler, medical marijuana’s fallen angel

Scott Imler, a United Methodist minister in West Hollywood, would rather regulate herbs in hell than serve liberated health care customers in heaven. He was willing to appreciate the logic of letting people use cannabis as a healing herb at their own discretion—until too many of his sacred cows were slaughtered by the alleged scandal of medicine’s commingling with capitalism at California’s medical marijuana dispensaries. Americans will stop worrying about health care soon after they learn to think calmly and rationally about it. Imler proves that point in the negative.

Morley Safer interviewed Imler for the September 23 60 Minutes:
The Supreme Court has upheld the DEA’s right to go after dispensaries, no matter what state law might say. And even one of the key proponents of medical marijuana says things have gotten out of hand.

“It’s just ridiculous the amount of money that’s going through these cannabis clubs. It’s absolutely ridiculous,” says Scott Imler, a minister in the United Methodist Church who has long been active in promoting medical marijuana.

Eleven years ago, he was working to pass proposition 215, the [statewide] ballot measure that legalized it. Today, Imler has second thoughts.

“The purpose of proposition 215 was not to create a new industry. It was to protect legitimate patients from criminal prosecution,” Imler says.

The aim back then, reflected in television spots, was for a highly regulated system in which licensed pharmacies would dispense medical marijuana to the seriously ill. Proposition 215’s backers had people with AIDS, cancer, and glaucoma in mind.

“What happened when we were writing it was, as you can imagine, every patient group in the state and they all have their lobbies. You know, the kidney patients and the heart patient. Every patient group wanted to be included in the list,” Imler recalls. “And so we didn’t wanna get in the position of deciding what it could be used for and what it couldn’t be used for. We weren’t doctors. We weren’t scientists. We weren’t researchers. We were just patients with a problem.”

Imler says they were forced to make the proposition vague.

So the law voters passed mentioned not only cancer and AIDS but “...any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.” A decade later, if you’ve got a note from a doctor, you can buy medical pot for just about any imaginable condition.

“Let me just ask you plain and simple. Is there this proliferation because people are simply using, quote, unquote, medical marijuana, to get high?” Safer asks.

“I think there’s a lot of that. And I think you know, a lot of what we have now is basically pot dealers in storefronts,” Imler says.

Many businesses calling themselves dispensaries or cannabis clubs advertise in alternative papers, as do doctors around the state who will give you a quick once-over and, for a price, a permit to buy.
Regrettably, Safer doesn’t see through the phony scandal of adult citizens purchasing an amazingly safe herb for the difficult to explain but very real benefits of getting high. I credit Imler with intellectual humility when he says, “We weren’t doctors. We weren’t scientists.” I wish he would take that reasoning a little further. Why doesn’t Imler notice the alarming discrepancy between the scientific and political processes? Why doesn’t he then apply the same standard of intellectual humility to politicians (and the health care workers they have forcefully deputized) that he does to himself?

If I could, I would deny any doctor or pharmacist the prerogative of vetoing my request for any medicine. Generations of government growth have taught many Americans to think of health care (and education) as things that come down from the government like manna from heaven. But the laws of economics are nearly as dependable as the laws of physics. It always sucks to be relatively poor. It entails relative deprivation in every worldly good and service, including health care. Meanwhile, free markets regulated minimally to avoid coercion, fraud, and gross threats to public safety are the historically proven way to make all goods and services continually better and more available. California’s medically sound Proposition 215 is a model for taking health care in general away from slow-witted bureaucrats and back to the people.

In other words, I am the final authority on whether getting high is beneficial to my health. Rev. Imler prattles onward:
“Most of these cannabis centers are buying their marijuana off the black market. They’re dumping millions of dollars into the criminal black market,” Imler says.

“Marijuana—what? Coming in from Mexico or wherever?” Safer asks.

“Some of it is,” Imler says. “Some of these places sell hashish, which comes in from the Becca Valley in Lebanon.”

“What you’re suggesting is that the traditional black market or part of the traditional black market is now legal?” Safer asks.

“Yeah. That’s essentially what’s happened,” Imler agrees.

....

And looking back on a decade of controversy, Rev. Scott Imler concedes that good Samaritans with good intentions weren’t enough. He argues it’s time for the federal government to step in and legalize and properly control medical marijuana.

“Until that happens, we’re gonna have what we have now, which is chaos,” he says.
Those are the last words of the 60 Minutes story. For some reason, what Imler calls chaos is supposed to be scary, like a movie presented by Count Floyd. Unless Imler can justify his fear of that kind of chaos without regurgitating hoaxes about marijuana, his newfound hypocrisy ought to diminish his reputation in the medical marijuana community.

Go fuck yourself, Reverend! You’re a Falwell in sheep’s clothing!

Posted by Brian Sorgatz at 6:16 AM

  • Blogger Pastor Scott left this comment at December 6, 2009 3:49 AM  
    Well Brian . . . it's two years later and if I was "medical marijuana's fallen angel," I just got up and the chaos to which I was referring and that you were dismissing has exploded on the front page of the LA Times and the LA Weekly as the City of Angels grapples with an estimated 600 medical marijuana "dispensaries," only a handful of which operate in compliance with state law.

    While I take no joy in saying "I told you so," the fact is I told you so.

    Thirteen years after Proposition 215 passed and any high school kid in LA can buy themselves a medical marijuana card and visit a cannabis club near you. the only people who still can't get marijuana are those in the cancer and AIDS wards or who don't have an extra 80 bucks in their pockets to feed the black market beast.

    Angel? NO.
    Prophet? Well, if the shoe fits.

    Rev. Scott T. Imler
    Co-Author, Proposition 215
    Founder and Federal Felon of the
    Los angeles Cannabis Resource Center (Ret.)
  • Blogger Brian Sorgatz left this comment at December 6, 2009 11:54 AM  
    The facts, Reverend, continue to vindicate my argument, not yours. By saying, “I told you so,” you suggest that compliance with marijuana law is an inherent virtue for its own sake. How can you honestly think this way? If federal law can be so outrageously, stupidly wrong about cannabis, why should you put so much faith in state or local law on the subject?

    If you think it’s evil for a high schooler to have easy access to pot, you and I will have to agree to disagree. The “black market beast” you mention is clearly a consequence of unjust laws that prohibit marijuana for the general population. Have you no power at all to reason about causes and effects? Again, you’re making my point for me.
  • Anonymous Anonymous left this comment at January 25, 2010 9:35 AM  
    This is not medical marijuana's fallen angel but a turn coat on the creator, how can you propose to be so close to God and side with men who want to destroy his creation? How can you think man's laws trumps natures laws? We have a war on a plant that is the 2nd largest absorber of CO2 on the planet next to bamboo and it can be grown in way more environments, in a time when CO2 levels are rising. Could it have anything to do with killing off of our ecosystem coupled with using a fossil fuel that takes 70 million years for the earth to produce vs. a carbon neutral fuel such as methanol, derived from hemp, that only takes 7 months to grow! You all need to do your research and learn why it is REALLY illegal...for it's industrial applications that could help this country on it's way to becoming self sufficient away from the banking cartels! Natural resources are real wealth...NOT MONEY!!! Why do we have a war on one of the best in hemp? Learn here: http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html
  • Anonymous Anonymous left this comment at January 25, 2010 9:57 AM  
    I also wanted to add that the only "drug" that has never killed a single person in the entire history of the human race and is still classified as a schedule 1 along with heroin, cocaine and opiates...is hemp. Their has never been one death attributed to cannabis as the primary cause of death...EVER!!! I also believe that those other drugs also could serve a purpose in the medical field as a NATURAL alternative to all the synthetics with horrible side effects! The war on drugs is a war on our own citizens, families and neighbors and has been a horrible failure costing the tax payer BILLIONS if not more in revenue to turn ordinary citizens into criminals and creating new criminal cartels like alcohol prohibition did with the Al Capone's in that day and age. So they tax us to wipe out natural resources and do all this harm to humanity and nature where no one profits, unless you happen to be the people profiting from keeping natural alternatives in the black market while your synthetics in the Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex train our physicians to become legal drug dealers. Did you know that our doctors and hospitals kill more people than cancer or heart disease through misdiagnoses, secondary infections and side effects from synthetic drugs! Regulation works as proven with alcohol and tobacco products. Legalization of nature and regulation of any derived drug will be far more successful protecting our children than the war we have on nature and our own citizens like we do now. Some documentaries to watch: "In Pot We Trust" and "Run From the Cure, The Rick Simpson Story"
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