Posted by Brian Sorgatz at 5:56 PM

left this comment at October 6, 2006 3:55 AM
The difference between Clinton and Foley is that Clinton engaged with a consenting adult. Big difference there.
Brian Sorgatz left this comment at October 6, 2006 4:55 AM
jay,
Not true! The age of consent is 16 in the District of Columbia. I don’t believe in treating post-pubescent teenagers as children. Don’t forget that the Clinton-haters tried to play the moral-outrage card by calling Monica Lewinsky a “girl.” Unlike some feminists, I have no objection in principle to referring to a young woman by that term. But in context, their use of it then was obviously opportunistic.
TerraPraeta left this comment at October 6, 2006 10:14 AM
Once more, I totally agree ith you Brian. The recurrance of the term 'pedophilia' in this discussion makes my teeth rattle! To suggest that there is ANY similairity between abusing a pre-pubescent child and being attracted to a young adult simply serves to make pedophilia less aberrant.
Strange that we got off on such a poor footing, when so much of our thinking is similair.
Cheers!
tp
Brian Sorgatz left this comment at October 6, 2006 10:59 AM
tp,
Yes, I lost my temper and got snarky towards the end of our debate about Steven Pinker, and I am sorry about that. To explain, though not to excuse, I’ve had a habit of thinking myself a victim of some of the intellectual laziness and dishonesty that I see Pinker as the most powerful antidote for. The wounded dignity of my adolescence and early adulthood seemed to be at stake. Just before I read your last comment, I finished an article in the October Playboy about a deadly fraternity hazing at California State University, Chico. The author applied evolutionary psychology—sagely, in my opinion—to the hazing problem. I couldn’t help wondering how many deaf ears this important article would fall on because of political correctness. How long will anti-intellectualism keep it dangerous to be born with a Y chromosome? I’m not still trying to win the argument. I just want to show how personally I take the debate, rightly or wrongly.
I confess that after my last comment on the Pinker thread, I avoided the thread so that I could pretend I got the last word in. I still haven’t checked back. Does that make me a coward?
TerraPraeta left this comment at October 6, 2006 5:48 PM
It makes you human.
We all have something that we are a tad irrational about. When someone can step up and ackowledge thier own -- that's when I am impressed :-)
tp
Brian Sorgatz left this comment at October 7, 2006 10:56 AM
tp,
Thank you.

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