Posted by Brian Sorgatz at 5:26 PM

TerraPraeta left this comment at October 1, 2006 7:21 AM
I agree with you on this one, Brian. I've plugged Gatto a few times recently in blog comments.
Although, there was a post on Town Of Autumn a couple weeks ago about a teenage girl conned by a 'fake policeman'. The commentators were bitching about 'how stupid could she be -- to get in his car...' and all I could think was that we teach our kids to recognize and submit to that authority without question. So was she really being stupid, or was she doing exactly what she has been taught to do?
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Brian Sorgatz left this comment at October 1, 2006 10:23 AM
TerraPraeta,
Have you seen the 2002 movie Catch Me If You Can? It’s based on the true story of a brilliant teenage con man of the 1960s, and it vindicates my post and your comment on many levels. It suggests that teenagers’ abilities are commonly underestimated. It shows how easily people can fall under the spell of badges of authority: the young man needs only to dress like an airline pilot, a doctor, or whatever, and people trust him even when he drops hints about his ignorance of those professions. In a debate that began elsewhere (scroll down), Doctor Marco, a self-described freethinker, called me a conspiracy theorist for questioning the standard practices of the psychiatric profession. He was too lazy to refute my arguments; he thought he could make his case by pointing out how many Ph.D.s and M.D.s disagree with me. Essentially, he defends authoritarian schooling because we have to destroy the village of independent thought in order to save it.
But on another level, Judith Rich Harris has ruined that and many other biopics for me. Thanks to her, I know that parents don’t deserve so much blame for messed-up kids.
Can you give me the permalink for the specific post on Town of Autumn?
TerraPraeta left this comment at October 1, 2006 5:46 PM
Hi Brian,
Here is the specific post.
I have not seen the movie -- I rarely see any movies or tv anymore -- but it vaguely reminds me of the '90's tv show . A bit campy, but I kinda liked i :-)
I am absolutely certain that teenagers are far more capable than most adults give them credit for: after all, until the last, what, 60-70 years, 'teenager' really didn't mean anything. Once puberty set in, they were adults after all...
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TerraPraeta left this comment at October 1, 2006 5:48 PM
Your comment page is giving me all sort of trouble tonight. That second paragraph should read:
"but it vaguely reminds me of the '90's tv show The Pretender. A bit campy, but I kinda liked it :-)"
tp
Ron Amos left this comment at January 3, 2007 5:14 PM
Well here I go agreeing without
being disagreeable... what am I
doing, there must be something
wrong with me.
Nice article...
Reminds of me of what I
might have written if I
hadn't been so angry that I
went out robbing gas stations
to get even with the Education
Establishment.
Anxious Grad Student left this comment at January 15, 2007 9:46 AM
Interesting post and I definitely agree with the assertion that US public education, and its evolution in our society into its current state and form, encourages a prolonged adolescent period which did not exist in human societies until our very modern period of institutional education. To take it further, perhaps you should discuss the inherent power structures established in secondary education and their relationship with the overarching power structures of our capitalistic republic and Western society in general. Particularly the relationship between authority figures and the emerging independent thinker our system is supposedly set up to produce, which in actuality is geared towards making citizens easier to control and manipulate.
Also - I wonder what your solution to the problem of institutional education would be.
left this comment at December 26, 2007 6:09 AM
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